Daily Show interviews - torture

DAILY SHOW april 28th CLIFF MAY's Interview -comedycentral.com

1. Stress positions
Nothing wrong with them for a few hours or a couple days.
11 days is insane. They like to bring up that they had doctors around. Now unless the internet, books, and the science channel has let me down. The average person being force to stay awake for longer than 7-9 days can be lethal. (yes I know some people have done it longer hence the word "average").

"Hey Doc can't this kill him."
"No worries I have a degree I'll bring him back to life."
LOL

Had to say that joke.

I think the basic rational understanding should be if it doesn't risk the average person's life it's not torture.

2.Jon made a good point, it may, (I don't know), not be necessary to torture if you had a few more than a couple hundred people that can read and speak Arabic. Also if you didn't fire or kick them out of the military just because they are homosexual. It just seems to gather intel on such a dangerous enemy that you feel you have to torture because you're so afraid you would say to yourself, "let's get some people studying."

"Shouldn't we have more people in our intelligence agency learning to speak Arabic."
"Naw we'll just torture them then they well tell us everything we need to know."
"Umm do you know Arabic."
"Umm yeah if he does talk that may be a problem."
LOL.

3.Jon misspoke he meant the American Ideals now, not since the beginning of this society. If we go by the old values then Torture is more than OK.

4.Dropping the bomb did not end the war. The Japanese were being bombed by incendiaries every night. They were running low on oil and other supplies. Most didn't think they would last a few more months.
A million Americans lost is also propaganda. It could of be a couple hundred at the most a couple thousand if they destroyed enough naval ships but millions the Japanese started flying planes into ships as a last resort, it wasn't a tactic from the beginning.
The bomb was dropped for a few simple reasons, to see how it would actually effect humans, it was on an island, they weren't white, (being people that allowed American soldiers to be killed in Europe just so certain "historical" buildings wouldn't be destroyed this argument of saving American lives is just a lie.),they could get away with it cause they were in a war (one that was almost over anyways, which seemed to work for them.), It showed that America had the most powerful weapon, (in other words, if any of you want some of this we can do it to you too.)

5.Why would the lawyers need to change or coerce the law to make waterboarding ok if they didn't have to follow these laws. If terrorist don't apply to the Geneva laws then why did the agents have to go to the lawyers??? That isn't logical. If you say they had to go by American laws. I would say well they are still using or abusing the law to get what they want done and not just simply following the law as it is. The moment you have to do that you know you are doing something illegal.

"Hey are you sure that what we are about to do isn't illegal."
"Nah I change the "t" to "L" and the "just" things to bullshit, your covered."
"Dunk away boys."

It seems to me the "right" in their arguments always come from a place of fear. If you or your family or someone else is to be killed, so we have to do blah blah blah.
And the "Left" seems to come from a place of these are the laws and the Ideals that we should be living up to, so don't do blah blah blah.

I don't fancy myself either but if I had to choose one it would be left. Most (not all) of their arguments always seem to come from a more rational point of view (I'm talking torture not every bloody topic, so relax "right boy" you have your topic you can be proud of this just isn't one of them.)